Meeting Overview

MINUTES

HISTORIC  AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW

NOVEMBER   12, 2013

 

MEMBERS  PRESENT:           Scott Wheatley Wayne Garrison Margaret  Raso

\Villiam Walther Larry Bucciarelli Thano  Schoppel

Thomas  Quinn

 

ABSENT:

ALSO  PRESENT:

None

Deborah  Arbolino, Ann Marie Ambrose, Denise Sullivan

 

Administrative   Aide

Official Stenographer

Deputy  Town Attorney

 

 

Margaret  Raso,  Chairperson,   called the meeting  to order at 7:30 p.m. Hearings  on this meeting’s agenda,  which  are made  a part of this meeting,  were held as noted below:

 

APPLICANTS                                                      DECISION                                     HABR# NEW  ITEMS:

NEW ITEMS:

 

TOWNSLEY/OLSON

78.18 / l I 55; R-40 zoning district

APPROVED                 H,A_BR#l3-19

 

RICCOBONO

78.18 / 1/54;   R-40 zone

APPROVED                 HABR#l3-20

 

SCHMIDT

80.07 I I I 8; R-40 zone

APPROVED                  HABR#l3-21

 

 

Other Business:

Tappan  Library  (HABR#l2-13):    modification   to the siding  at the water table to the Library.  93 Main  Street, Tappan,  N.Y. 77.11 / 3 165 & 66 .TI1e Board  discussed  changing the siding to brick on the bottom  portion  of the barn  addition  to the Library  and agreed

that it would  match  the existing  Library  better than  siding. The Library  shall use

Glen Gery brick  in “Flagstaff’ which  is a one-half  (112) inch modular  thin brick series. The foregoing  modification/resolution    was presented  and moved by Margaret  Raso,

which motion  was seconded  by Bill Walthers  and carried as follows:  Margaret  Raso,  aye; Larry Bucciarelli,  aye; Wayne  Ganison,  aye; Thomas  Quinn,  aye; William  Walthers,  aye; and Scott Wheatley,  aye.  Thano  Schoppel  recused  himself  because  he is a member  of the Library  Board.

 

 

THE DECISIONS  RELATED  TO THE ABOVE  HEARINGS   are inserted  herein  and made part of these minutes.

 

 

There being no further business  to come before  the Board,  on motion  duly made, seconded  and carried,  the meeting  was adjourned  at  9:00  P .M.

DATED:   November   12, 2013

 

 

 

 

DISTRIBUTION: APPLICANT

TOWN ATIORNEY

DEPUTY TOWN  A TIORNEY

BUILDING INSPECTOR (Individual Decisions) TOWN BOARD MEMBERS      SUPERVISOR

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Deborah  Arbolino

Administrative Aide

 

 

 

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APPROVED    AS PRESENTED

 

 

TO:  Alan Townsley  and Lisa Olson

7 Closter  Road

Palisades,  New York  10964

DECISION

 

 

 

 

HABR#  13-19

November  12, 2013

 

 

FROM:  HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW,  TOWN  OF ORANGETOWN

 

 

 

HABR#  13- 19: Application   of Alan Townsley  and Lisa Olson for review  of a repair and replacement  of a front porch  at an existing  single-family  residence.  The premises  are located  at 7 Closter Road  in the Town of Orangetown,  Hamlet  of Palisades,  New York. Chapter  12, Section  12-4(A),  Historic  Areas  Board  of Review.

Tax Numbers:  78.18 I 1   I 55; R-40 zoning  district.

 

 

 

Heard by the HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW  at a meeting  held  on Tuesday, November   12, 2013 at which  time the Board  made  the following  determination:

 

 

 

Alan Townsley  and Lisa Olson appeared. The following  documents  were presented:

1. Architectural  plans  dated September   19, 2013 signed  and sealed by Kier B.

Levesque,  Architect.

 

 

 

 

Alan Townsley  stated that they do not want to change  a thing about the house;  that they have found structural  damage  on the front porch  and it must be repaired;  that they are planning  to replace  everything  to match  what exists but they have to make two changes; that the railings  on the porch  must be built  slightly higher  to meet the new code; that the other change  is that the stairs to the porch  must have  a railing to meet code and they are matching  this railing  to the look of the existing  rail along the porch;  that the roof had a channel  gutter that was the demise  of the porch  and will be replaced  with half round copper  gutter with  a downspout  on the west front side of the front column;  that the trim will be preserved  and the missing  piece will be replicated  ;  that the roof shall be metal and replaced  in kind in gray; the columns  shall be square and there shall be cedar lattice to match  existing  on the bottom  portion  of the porch.

 

 

 

 

PUBLIC  COMMENT: No public  comment.

 

 

Townsley/Olson

HAER#  13-10

Page 2 of  3

 

 

FINDINGS   OF FACT:

 

2. The Board,  after personal  observation  of the property,  hearing  all the testimony and  reviewing  same, found  as fact, that: The application  as presented,  would  not adversely  affect the Historic  District  and the surrounding  area. The design  and materials  for the proposed:   (Architectural  plans  dated  September  19, 2013 signed and sealed by Kier B. Levesque, Architect)  are complimentary to the District.

 

1. The roof shall be galvanized steel manufactured by Galvalum in the color “gray

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2. The gutters and leaders shall be half round copper.
3. The original trim shall be preserved and replaced in kind.
4. The columns shall be square.
5. The railings shall be replaced in kind but must be slightly higher to meet code and

the steps shall have the same railing to meet code.

6. All wood shall be painted white.
7. And as detailed on Sheet A-1 and A-2 of the Architectural plans dated September

19, 2013 signed and sealed by Kier B. Levesque, Architect.

 

 

 

THIS APPROVAL/DECISION,   AND ANY MODIFICATIONS   OR CONDITIONS SET FORTH  HEREIN,  IS GRANTED BY THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  AND IS LIMITED   TO  THE  SPECIFIC   RELIEF   REQUESTED  AND SUBJECT  TO THE CONDITIONS  OR MODIFICATIONS,  IF ANY, SET FORTH HEREIN.

 

** PRE-1918   CONSTRUCTION:   PLEASE   BE  ADVISED:   IN   THE  HISTORIC AREA,   ALL   CONSTRUCTION   REQUIRING   A  BUILDING   PERMIT   OR  ANY EXTERIOR      CHANGES     (INCLUDING     PAINT     COLOR)    TO    BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED    PRIOR     TO   1918,   REQUIRES     APPROVAL    FROM    THE HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW.

 

PRIOR APPROVAL  OF THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW IS REQUIRED  PRIOR TO ANY CHANGE OR MODIFICATION  OF THE REQUIREMENTS  AND/OR CONDITIONS  SET FORTH IN THIS DECISION, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED  TO:

 

 

 

 

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Townsley/Olson

HABR#  13-19

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o ROOFING  SHINGLES (IF CHANGING  COLOR)

• SIDING
• DECORATNE SIDING
• SOFFITS & FASCIA
• GUTTERS AND LEADERS
• WINDOWS
• TRIM
• SHUTTERS

eDOORS

• LIGHTING
• LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING  UNITS
• WALKWAYS, PATIOS

o POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES

• SIGNS
• ANY CHANGE   IN  THE  ABOVE  LIST  INCLUDING   COLOR,   MATERIAL   AND/OR MANUFACTURER

 

IF YOU HAVE  ANY QUESTIONS,  PLEASE  CONTACT  DEBBIE  ARBOLINO, CLERK TO THE HISTORIC  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  AT (845) 359-8410.

 

 

 

 

DECISION:   In view of the foregoing  and the testimony  before  the Board, the application for the replacement  porch  is APPROVED.

 

The foregoing  resolution  was presented  and moved by Larry Bucciarelli,  seconded  by William  Walther;   and carried as follows:  Margaret  Raso,  aye; Larry Bucciarelli,  aye; Wayne  Garrison,  aye; William  Walther,  aye;  Scott Wheatley,  aye Thano  Schoppel,  aye; and  Thomas  Quinn,  aye.

 

The Administrative   Aide to the Board  is hereby  authorized,  directed  and empowered  to sign this decision  and file a certified  copy thereof  in the office of the Town Clerk.

 

Dated: November   12, 2013

 

 

HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW TOWN  OF ORANGETOWN

 

 

 

BY:      ~~

Deborah  Arboliiio,  Administrative   Aide

 

DlSTRIBUTION:

 

APPLICANT

TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HABR MEMBERS

SUPERVISOR TOWN ATTORNEY

DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEY OBZPAE

BUILDING INSPECTOR- M.M.

TOWN CLERK

HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT

TOWN lllSTORIAN

DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING

HABR, PB, FILE

PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN

 

 

 

APPROVED    AS PRESENTED

 

TO:  Paul and Suzanne  Riccobono

5 Closter  Road

Palisades,  New York  10964

DECISION

 

 

HABR#  13-20

November   12, 2013

 

 

FROM:  HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW,  TOWN  OF ORANGETOWN

 

HABR#  13- 20: Application   of Paul  and Suzanne  Riccobono  for review  ofrefurbishrnent of an existing  single-family   residence.  The premises  are located  at 5 Closter  Road, in the Town  of Orangetown,  Hamlet  of Palisades,  New York.  Chapter  12, Section  12A(A), Historic  Areas Board  of Review.

Tax Numbers:  78.18 / l / 54; R-40 zoning  district.

 

 

 

 

Heard by the HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW  at a meeting  held  on Tuesday, November   12, 2013 at which  time the Board made the following  determination:

 

 

 

Paul and Suzanne  Riccobono  and John Fellgraff,  Architect,  appeared. The following  documents  were presented:

1. Architectural plans  dated 09/09/2013  signed and sealed by John Fellgraff,

Architect.

2. A copy of survey  dated April 21, 2005 by Jeffrey Donnellon,  PLS.
3. Two pages of lanterns  labeled  “The Westmoreland”.

 

 

 

Paul Riccobono  stated that they love everything  about the house  and want to keep it and make  it better;  that they would  like to add one window  where there isn’t  one and to level two existing  windows  which  would  look better;  that they are proposing  to use Hardie Board  in place of the current  cedar siding but it would  look the same in texture,  pattern and color as the existing  cedar; that the windows  in the house  are broken  and cannot be opened;  that they looked  into trying to make  them operational  but most of the original glass has been replaced  and the windows  are not in good enough  condition  to refurbish; that they are proposing  to replace  the existing  windows  with the same size as the existing windows;  that the front porch  and stairs are in terrible  structural  condition  and they are hoping  to remove  it an rebuild  the porch identically  to its current  look while reusing  the

decorative  wooden  main posts; that the new proposed  windows  shall be pvc frame coated

wood  sash that match the dimension  of the existing;  that are planning  to re-use  or replace the existing  shutters in kind; that the air conditioner  shall be under the front porch behind the lattice; that they  are proposing  to install  gas lanterns,  if they can get them from Westmoreland,   and if not they will install  similar  electric lanterns;  and that they have no objection  to using  cedar instead  of the hardi board.

 

 

 

PUBLIC  COMMENT: No public  comment.

 

 

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HABR#  13-20

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FINDINGS OF FACT:

 

 

4. The Board,  after personal  observation  of the property,  hearing  all the testimony and reviewing  same, found as fact, that: The application  as presented,  would  not adversely  affect the Historic  District  and the surrounding  area. The design  and materials  for the proposed  refurbishment   of 5 Closter  Road: (Architectural  plans dated 09/09/2013  signed  and sealed by John Fellgraff,  Architect)  are complimentary   to the District.

 

1. The roof shall match  the existing  Timberline  roof.
2. The siding  shall be cedar clapboard  painted  gray to match  existing house.
3. The original  shutters shall be re-used  or replicated.
4. The gutters and leaders  shall be half round  aluminum.
5. The front door shall be wood painted  black.
6. The windows  shall be replaced  with simulated  divided  light style windows  with as close a match  as can be found.
7. Two windows  that are not level will be readjusted  to be level with each other  and the new proposed  window that  is proposed  on the east side of the house can be either rectangular  as proposed  or changed  to an oval window.
8. The applicant  has the choice to install  One (1) gas lantern by Westmoreland

(American  Gas Lamp Works Model  #300 Westmoreland   Post Mounted  with Fluted  Post (Black/Mantle)   beside the walkway  or a similar coach style electric light; and the choice to install  one (1) gas lantern by Westmoreland   (American

Gas Lamp Works  Model #300 Westmoreland   Wall Mounted  (Black/Mantle)   or a similar Coach  style electric  light shall be installed  on the porch.

9. The front porch  and steps shall be rebuilt  in kind.
10. The air conditioning unit shall be under the front porch behind lattice.

 

 

 

THIS APPROVAL!DECISION,   AND ANY MODIFICATIONS   OR CONDITIONS SET FORTH  HEREIN,  IS GRANTED BY THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  AND IS LIMITED   TO  THE  SPECIFIC   RELIEF   REQUESTED  AND SUBJECT  TO THE CONDITIONS  OR MODIFICATIONS,  IF ANY, SET FORTH HEREIN.

 

** PRE-1918   CONSTRUCTION: PLEASE   BE  ADVISED:   IN   THE  HISTORIC AREA,   ALL   CONSTRUCTION REQUIRING  A  BUILDING   PERMIT  OR  ANY EXTERIOR   CHANGES  (INCLUDING PAINT   COLOR)  TO BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED  PRIOR     TO   1918,   REQUIRES     APPROVAL    FROM    THE HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD OF REVIEW.

 

PRIOR  APPROVAL  OF THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW IS REQUIRED  PRIOR TO ANY CHANGE OR MODIFICATION  OF THE REQUIREMENTS  AND/OR CONDITIONS  SET FORTH IN THIS DECISION, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED  TO:

 

 

 

Riccobono

HABR#  13-20

Page 3  of  3

 

 

• ROOFING SHINGLES (IF CHANGING COLOR)
• SIDING
• DECORATIVE SIDING

o  SOFFITS  & FASCIA

” GUTTERS AND LEADERS

• WINDOWS
• TRIM
• SHUTTERS
• DOORS

e  LIGHTING

• LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING  UNITS

.. WALKWAYS, PATIOS

• POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES
• SIGNS
• ANY CHANGE  IN  THE  ABOVE  LIST   INCLUDING   COLOR,   MATERIAL   AND/OR MANUFACTURER

 

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS,  PLEASE  CONTACT  DEBBIE  ARBOLINO, CLERK  TO THE HISTORIC  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  AT (845) 359-8410.

 

 

 

 

DECISION: In view of the foregoing and the testimony before the Board, the application;

:   (Architectural plans dated 09/09/2013 signed and sealed by John Fellgraff, Architect) is

APPROVED.

 

The foregoing resolution was presented and moved by Margaret Raso, seconded by Thomas Quinn;  and carried as follows: Margaret Raso, aye; Wayne Garrison, aye; William Walther, aye; Scott Wheatley, aye Thano Schoppel, aye; and Thomas Quinn, aye. Larry Bucciarelli recused himself

 

The Administrative Aide to the Board is hereby authorized, directed and empowered to sign this decision and file a certified copy thereof in the office of the Town Clerk.

 

Dated: November 12, 2013

 

 

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HISTORIC AREAS BOARD OF REVIEW TOWN OF ORANGETOWN

 

 

 

BY:

Deborah Arbolino, Administrative Aide

 

DISTRIBUTION:

 

APPLICANT

TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HABR MEMBERS SUPERVISOR

TOWN ATTORNEY

DEPUTY  TOWN ATTORNEY OBZPAE

BUILDING INSPECTOR- B.vW.

TOWN CLERK

HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TOWN HISTORIAN

DEPT. or ENVIRONMENTAL

ENGINEERING

HABR, PB, FILE

PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN

 

 

 

APPROVED AS PRESENTED

 

 

TO:  William  Bosley  (Schmidt  Pool)

10 Sugarhill  Road

Nyack,  New York  10960

DECISION

 

 

 

HABR#  13-21

November   12, 2013

 

 

FROM: HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW,  TOWN  OF ORANGETOWN

 

 

 

HABR#  13- 21: Application   of Michael  Schmidt  for an amendment  to HABR#12-12  for changes  to an approved  in-ground  pool,  fence and small retaining  wall  at an existing single-family  residence.  The premises  are located  at 18 Lawrence  Lane, in the Town of Orangetown,  Hamlet  of Palisades,  New York.  Chapter  12, Section  12-4(A), Historic Areas Board  of Review.

Tax Numbers:   80.07 I 1  I 8; R-40 zoning  district.

 

 

 

Heard  by the HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW  at a meeting  held  on Tuesday, November   12, 2013 at which  time the Board made the following  determination:

 

 

 

William  Bosley appeared.

 

 

The following  documents  were presented:

 

1. Infinity Pool plans  dated  10/25/2013  signed  and sealed by Dominick  Richard

Pilla, P.E..

2. Pool structural  plan dated  9/25/2013  signed and sealed by William  A. Truss, P.E..
3. Subsurface sewage  disposal  system details  dated  11/14/2012  revised  10/24/2013 signed  and sealed by Paul Gdanski,  P.E.

 

Bill Bosley  stated that he is before  the Board  to amend  a previous  approval  for the Schmidt  pool; that the applicant  has  adjusted  the  shape of the pool and its design; that they have decided  on a trapezoid  shaped infinity pool with the vanishing  edge on three sides; that the pool  equipment  has been relocated  to the east side of the pool that the patio has been  changed  to an Ipe deck; and that a small retaining  wall has also been added to the west of the house;  that it will be a fieldstone  wall approximately   3-4 feet tall and that the new generator  will be installed  to the south of the wall.

 

 

PUBLIC  COMMENT: No public  comment.

 

 

 

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HABR#  13-21

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FINDINGS OF FACT:

 

The Board,  after personal  observation  of the property,  hearing  all the testimony  and reviewing  same, found as fact,  that: The application  as presented,  would  not adversely  affect the Historic  District  and the surrounding  area. The design  and materials  for the proposed  for the pool  and wall   are complimentary   to the District.

 

1. The pool shall be a trapezoid  shaped infinity  pool with the vanishing  edge on three  sides.
2. The pool shall be plaster  interior  in lava apavisa  nigro,
3. The cap for the pool  shall be bluestone.
4. The pool equipment  shall be on the east side of the pool.
5. The retaining  wall on the west side of the house shall be fieldstone  approximately

3-4 feet tall.

6. The new generator  shall be installed  to the south of the new wall.

 

 

 

THIS APPROVAL/DECISION,   AND ANY  MODIFICATIONS   OR CONDITIONS SET FORTH  HEREIN,  IS GRANTED BY THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  AND IS LIMITED   TO  THE  SPECIFIC   RELIEF   REQUESTED   AND SUBJECT  TO THE CONDITIONS  OR MODIFICATIONS,  IF ANY, SET FORTH HEREIN.

 

** PRE-1918   CONSTRUCTION:   PLEASE   BE  ADVISED:   IN   THE  HISTORIC AREA,   ALL   CONSTRUCTION   REQUIRING   A  BUILDING   PERMIT   OR  ANY EXTERIOR   CHANGES  (INCLUDING PAINT  COLOR) TO BUILDINGS CONSTRUCTED    PRIOR    TO    1918,   REQUIRES     APPROVAL     FROM    THE HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD OF REVIEW.

 

PRIOR APPROVAL  OF THE HISTORICAL  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW  IS REQUIRED  PRIOR  TO ANY CHANGE OR MODIFICATION  OF THE REQUIREMENTS  AND/OR  CONDITIONS  SET FORTH IN THIS DECISION, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED  TO:

 

 

HABR#  13-21

Page 3 of 3

 

 

• ROOFJNG SHINGLES (IF CHANGING  COLOR)
• SIDING
• DECORATIVE SIDING
• SOFFITS & FASCIA
• GUTTERS AND LEADERS
• WINDOWS
• TRIM
• SHUTTERS
• DOORS
• LIGHTING
• LOCATION OF AIR CONDITIONING  UNITS
• WALKWAYS, PATIOS
• POOLS, SPAS AND FENCES
• SIGNS
• ANY CHANGE  IN  THE  ABOVE  LIST  INCLUDING   COLOR,   MATERIAL   AND/OR MANUFACTURER

 

IF YOU HAVE  ANY QUESTIONS,  PLEASE  CONTACT  DEBBIE  ARBOLINO, CLERK  TO THE HISTORIC  AREA BOARD OF REVIEW AT (845) 359-8410.

 

 

DECISION:   In view of the foregoing  and the testimony  before  the Board, the application; Infinity Pool, retaining  wall  and generator  is APPROVED.

 

The foregoing  resolution  was presented  and moved  by Margaret  Raso,  seconded  by Larry Bucciarelli;   and carried  as follows:  Margaret  Raso,  aye; Larry Bucciarelli,  aye; Wayne Garrison,  aye; William  Walther,  aye;  Scott Wheatley,  aye Thano  Schoppel,  aye;  and Thomas  Quinn, aye.

 

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The Administrative   Aide to the Board  is hereby  authorized,  directed  and empowered  to sign this decision  and file a certified  copy thereof  in the office of the Town Clerk..

 

Dated: November   12, 2013

 

 

HISTORIC  AREAS  BOARD  OF REVIEW TOWN  OF ORANGETOWN

 

 

BY:

 

 

 

DISTRIBUTION:

 

APPLICANT

TOWN BOARD MEMBERS HABR MEMBERS SUPERVISOR

TOWN ATfORNEY

DEPUTY TOWN A1TORNEY

OBZPAE

BUlLDING  INSPECTOR-B.vW.

 

TOWN  CLERK

HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TOWN HISTORIAN

DEPT. OF ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING

HABR, PB, FILE

PB, ZBA, ACABOR CHAIRMAN